Episode #2

Human in the Loop

Show notes:

Machine learning (ML) has reached an exciting phase of development, a phase that Vicki Boykis, Senior ML Engineer at Duo Security* has characterized as the “steam-powered days.” In this episode of Numerically Speaking: The Anaconda Podcast, Vicki talks about the state of the industry and where she sees things heading.

Vicki’s discussion with host Peter Wang covers:

  • the interplay between software engineering and ML
  • the human element of the development lifecycle (and the lack thereof in social media)
  • operationalization and the rise of microservices


  • Click here to visit Vicki’s blog.
  • Click here to purchase The Presentation of Self in Everyday Life by Erving Goffman, referenced by Vicki.
  • Click here to purchase Broad Band: The Untold Story of the Women Who Made the Internet, also referenced by Vicki.
  • Click here to listen to the Jim Rutt/Rob Malda (Slashdot) podcast episode referenced by Peter.
  • Check out the P2 website here.

You can find a human-verified transcript of this episode here.

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*At the time of the interview, Vicki Boykis was an ML Engineer working on Tumblr at Automattic.

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